tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8475862114676393206.post2944468462259569887..comments2023-10-24T09:42:05.608-04:00Comments on Riding Miss Daisy: Lesson on Ladd, Game Show, and JumpingMellimaushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16673715214541094159noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8475862114676393206.post-59707196182172062162010-06-23T20:18:10.962-04:002010-06-23T20:18:10.962-04:00Thanks for your input everyone!...I've been re...Thanks for your input everyone!...I've been reading online about clicker training horses but almost no one has said anything about getting to the point where you don't use treats anymore...so I just wondered :P. I want to use it to be able to teach her stuff; sort of like tricks, I guess...first one being to walk over a tarp :P because I'm waiting for the day where we'll need to in trail classes.<br /><br />ILJ: I'm not gonna lesson with Karin more on Ladd...but I will jump him. I did today already. Video up in a bit :)Mellimaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673715214541094159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8475862114676393206.post-6125428638398377782010-06-23T16:23:08.566-04:002010-06-23T16:23:08.566-04:00oh I know what you mean! i had a lesson like that ...oh I know what you mean! i had a lesson like that yesterday, but not nearly as bad as how you felt. I just oculdn't breath :P<br /><br />will you be jumping him a lot? will you be taking lessons from Karin a lot?ILJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8475862114676393206.post-54611836679773045842010-06-23T15:57:36.751-04:002010-06-23T15:57:36.751-04:00I bought this book a long time ago on sale at a ta...I bought this book a long time ago on sale at a tack shop. It's called; "The Truth About Horses" by Andrew McLean. It is all about how to train your horses based on how they learn, etc. It is really quite interesting. It explains a lot of what Sydney just said but in more detail and several other concepts. One thing it mentions is an experiment done by Pavlov using a clicker. <br /><br />You need a target like a frisbee (I use the lid from my Strongid), a clicker, and treats (I use animal crackers). I let Indigo loose in the arena but round pens are fine too. <br />You start by taking the target and touching it to your horses nose while at the same time clicking. Then take the target away and give the horse a treat. Repeat this several times, and then hold the target nearby while clicking and the horse should put his nose to the target in order to get a treat. After a while, you can throw the target or hold it high, low, etc, and the horse will find it and touch his nose to it. I do this with Indigo when: a)I have nothing better to do, b)when my dad forgets to pick me up and I am stuck at the barn, or c) I am too lazy to ride but still want to see my pony :-P. I call it supplemental training because it doesn't really serve a purpose besides filling time, but it is quality time to spend with your horse. I don't like doing the same thing everyday so things like this help vary it up. And it is really neat. Indigo will run after me and jump over things to find the target and get his treat. :-) And now I am curious if I can do this to help him get over his thing with water. He isn't scared of it, he just doesn't like getting wet. Maybe he'll follow me across water to get a treat?Michaelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155297951342497646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8475862114676393206.post-90809110950833517592010-06-23T14:27:14.100-04:002010-06-23T14:27:14.100-04:00Been there, the I am doing to die because this hor...Been there, the I am doing to die because this horse is not slowing and my body is giving in feeling. <br /><br />Clicker training is wonderful. I personally do not use clickers anymore.<br />See theres essentially two ways humans/dogs/cats/horses etc learn. Negative reinforcement EG- teaching a horse to move off your leg. When you squeeze and the horse walks forward you release the pressure and he learns to avoid the pressure he needs to walk forward. <br />And positive reinforcement Eg- Teaching a horse to pick up his feet and giving him a treat every time he lifts his leg until he begins offering it willingly every time, sometimes even before you ask because he knows theres a positive outcome to the behaviour (a treat!)<br />It's been proven that horses are more likely to retain and offer a behaviour when taught with positive reinforcement. An example of this is Sophie, the morgan mare I sold of ours last summer. She seriously did not get the point of setting up for halter. I tried for months to get her to stretch out and stand there. She would do it after about 5 minutes of arguing but would fidget and take far too much time to get where I wanted in the first place. So I got out the ol bag of treats and started giving her a treat every time she moved a front hoof up to stretch. Add about 15 more minutes onto that and I had a horse that not only stretched up willingly and perfect every time the first show I took her to she stretched up and stood like a rock for TWENTY MINUTES (there were 21 horses in the class) between two horses snaking all over the place and running their handlers down, screaming out and everything else you could imagine. She ended up getting second, the good girl.<br /><br />The clicker is good because you can "charge" the clicker (click and feed a treat, click and feed a treat etc etc) and then start teaching tricks. Eventually after a wile they associate the click with a treat and positive things you don't need the treats and can offer a click to say "yes thats good! That is what I want"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523660446608394720noreply@blogger.com